In a world full of lies, it's hard to know who to believe these days. False prophets wouldn't so easily gain audience if we could trust in the official narrative.
Been thinking about this too. It's also a reminder that in the UK we didn't put in an early warning system (DART) as it was deemed very unlikely but should it fall with speed, it could potentially hit the south coast of the UK I believe.
Bill McGuire did not discount a tsunami from the collapse of the west flank in 2021 but did reaffirm that the west flank of the volcano remains an unstable rock mass. That is a helluva different conclusion made by other scientists that there is no risk of a tsunami from the present eruption. Since I live in New Jersey, the last thing I want to see is a tsunami from La Palma.
@Lauren, you need to seek help from a doctor immediately, if you don't eat that won't help you at all in case of emergency, also, you are 37 miles inland, that is more than enough to protect you, please for your own good, calm yourself down.
We all feel for you over here. It is terrible to lose your home to lava. Hopefully, the eruption will be over soon, although - based upon the duration of the last few eruptions - it could be several more weeks yet.
Do you know if there is any specific fissures , pre eruption data, etc. that would give a small warning before the collapse happens? And if so do you know if they’re watching for that?
We know from our monitoring in the late 90s/early 2000s that the west flank was creeping seawards at 1 - 2 cm a year, but we have not undertaken monitoring since. This rate would certainly increase prior to slope failure and more fractures would almost certainly open up. I would hope that the Spanish scientists now monitoring the eruption would notice this.
Thank you so much for that information, I really appreciate you taking your time to talk about this..
Also I found this article here, and was wondering if what they’re saying is true, does this show an increase of probability of collapse? I’ve been watching the volcano and it’s gorgeous, so much lava is shooting up consistently.
You are very welcome Ann. The tears on the east of the island are interesting, although I don't think, yet, that we can relate them to the eruption. Worth keeping an eye on though.
I’ve been watching closely this eruption and I noticed all tremors were In the west flank , more worrisome probably is the magma heating the water trapped on the volcano . I have been following Spanish television and none and I mean none Spanish scientist has been referring to the danger of west flank colapse I ask myself if they are paying attention. Do you have any idea where is this type of monitoring being done? By the way thank you for your great work on Cumbre Vieja!
I am not certain of the monitoring capacity of the Spanish volcanologists on La Palma, but I know there is a GPS network that would hopefully pick up any sdvance signs of collapse. New fractures would open too, which should be easy to spot.
After I read this comment I tried to find any info from the Spanish Institute that monitors this data, and I found this: https://www.ign.es/web/ign/portal/vlc-gps so I noticed the LP01, LP03, LP04 and LP06 sensors are a few centimeters displaced to south and east, at least that is what I understand from this, am I wrong though? Does that mean that part of the west flank moved 12cm towards south?
Since the Dart (Buoy) Alert System IS presently a complete failure, would you have alternative suggestions for keeping abreast of the La Palma situation that would give everyone a early warning for getting to safety?
Ok nevermind my last comment about 3 volcanoes on La Palma. It was shown not to be true. I have to stop listening to Hal Turner and Off Grid Desert Farming channel on YouTube! Geez 😡
And now there are three volcanoes erupting on the island, the northern part (about a third of the island) has uplifted 20cm according to the IGN website, and 5.0 earthquakes. Sounds like a massive disaster in the making. If I am incorrect, please address this! I live on the east coast of FL an hour south of NASA -only a mile in from the water. Also I have mini farm with many animals and will be a massive undertaking to evacuate. Although, I do have a place in AR I could evacuate to if totally necessary.
With the addition of 2 volcanos I'm wondering if that is a "good" thing -I'm guessing it is releasing much of the magma pressure? But then again with the crazy amount of activity, wouldn't that cause the island to be much less stable?
Bill, can you provide an update on the threat of the island breaking off since there is currently steam and lava coming from vents on the unstable ridge? How can I be alerted if this were to happen?
They haven't had much in the news. I don't think they will. Why do you day this isn't true? I have seen photos of the steam and lava coming from the vents on the ridge. What link can you provide to show otherwise?
Any concerns about the current lava tunnels / tubes? One summary mentions that trapped ground water could create enough steam to make the flank collapse a reality.
THERE ARE NO - REPEAT - NO NEW VENTS!!!!!!!
In a world full of lies, it's hard to know who to believe these days. False prophets wouldn't so easily gain audience if we could trust in the official narrative.
Been thinking about this too. It's also a reminder that in the UK we didn't put in an early warning system (DART) as it was deemed very unlikely but should it fall with speed, it could potentially hit the south coast of the UK I believe.
Bill McGuire did not discount a tsunami from the collapse of the west flank in 2021 but did reaffirm that the west flank of the volcano remains an unstable rock mass. That is a helluva different conclusion made by other scientists that there is no risk of a tsunami from the present eruption. Since I live in New Jersey, the last thing I want to see is a tsunami from La Palma.
Any significance of the latest quake of 4.9? It seems to be getting worse
It certainly isn't getting any better. But Bill is the best authority on it.
It seems odd that it would continue to escalate after 34 days already.
Should the new vent opened up have us heading inland?
NO! There is no sign of instability and a new vent is not relevent to potential failure.
Thank you! The quakes are getting bigger, they just got a 4.6! It’s making myself and a lot of people very nervous.
Anything could happen, folks. So the best advice is... be prepared for anything to happen.
Hi Bill, LP03 station today registered more uplift e a bit more of south displacement, what are your thoughts about that? More magma coming?
There could well be more magma on the rise. We will have to see. Even so, it could cool below the surface rather than erupt.
What about the delta breaking? What could happen Mr. McGuire? Thank you
The delta is no threat at all to anyone on yiur side ofothe Atlantic.
Any updates? Any updates on the collapse or anything with the west flank?
No changes at all.
Thank you. I’m on day 2 of not being able to eat because of my anxiety.
@Lauren, you need to seek help from a doctor immediately, if you don't eat that won't help you at all in case of emergency, also, you are 37 miles inland, that is more than enough to protect you, please for your own good, calm yourself down.
I’m not 37, I’m 31-ish. But based on flood maps 30 meters of water would cover us, and they said it would hit here between 30 and 50.
I am from and I live there, many people have lost their home, including people from my family, I just hope you are wrong !!!
We all feel for you over here. It is terrible to lose your home to lava. Hopefully, the eruption will be over soon, although - based upon the duration of the last few eruptions - it could be several more weeks yet.
Do you know if there is any specific fissures , pre eruption data, etc. that would give a small warning before the collapse happens? And if so do you know if they’re watching for that?
We know from our monitoring in the late 90s/early 2000s that the west flank was creeping seawards at 1 - 2 cm a year, but we have not undertaken monitoring since. This rate would certainly increase prior to slope failure and more fractures would almost certainly open up. I would hope that the Spanish scientists now monitoring the eruption would notice this.
Thank you so much for that information, I really appreciate you taking your time to talk about this..
Also I found this article here, and was wondering if what they’re saying is true, does this show an increase of probability of collapse? I’ve been watching the volcano and it’s gorgeous, so much lava is shooting up consistently.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/getting-worse-lapalma-volcano-update-lava-heading-to-sea-toxic-gasses-to-emit-on-contact-166-homes-destroyed-so-far-quakes-getting-worse
You are very welcome Ann. The tears on the east of the island are interesting, although I don't think, yet, that we can relate them to the eruption. Worth keeping an eye on though.
I’ve been watching closely this eruption and I noticed all tremors were In the west flank , more worrisome probably is the magma heating the water trapped on the volcano . I have been following Spanish television and none and I mean none Spanish scientist has been referring to the danger of west flank colapse I ask myself if they are paying attention. Do you have any idea where is this type of monitoring being done? By the way thank you for your great work on Cumbre Vieja!
I am not certain of the monitoring capacity of the Spanish volcanologists on La Palma, but I know there is a GPS network that would hopefully pick up any sdvance signs of collapse. New fractures would open too, which should be easy to spot.
After I read this comment I tried to find any info from the Spanish Institute that monitors this data, and I found this: https://www.ign.es/web/ign/portal/vlc-gps so I noticed the LP01, LP03, LP04 and LP06 sensors are a few centimeters displaced to south and east, at least that is what I understand from this, am I wrong though? Does that mean that part of the west flank moved 12cm towards south?
I think these are showing uplift rather than lateral displacement. As far as I know, there is as yet no evidence of significant lateral displacement.
Since the Dart (Buoy) Alert System IS presently a complete failure, would you have alternative suggestions for keeping abreast of the La Palma situation that would give everyone a early warning for getting to safety?
ok, thank you for the answer
Ok nevermind my last comment about 3 volcanoes on La Palma. It was shown not to be true. I have to stop listening to Hal Turner and Off Grid Desert Farming channel on YouTube! Geez 😡
And now there are three volcanoes erupting on the island, the northern part (about a third of the island) has uplifted 20cm according to the IGN website, and 5.0 earthquakes. Sounds like a massive disaster in the making. If I am incorrect, please address this! I live on the east coast of FL an hour south of NASA -only a mile in from the water. Also I have mini farm with many animals and will be a massive undertaking to evacuate. Although, I do have a place in AR I could evacuate to if totally necessary.
With the addition of 2 volcanos I'm wondering if that is a "good" thing -I'm guessing it is releasing much of the magma pressure? But then again with the crazy amount of activity, wouldn't that cause the island to be much less stable?
Looking like this eruption is winding down, finally!
Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it. Eruption duration is something we just can't predict, and activity can very easily pick up again.
What’s your take on the additional two new nearby eruptions taking place? (Cogote Mountain and Refugio del Pilar)?
I think the tweets rather meant existing eruption as filmed from these two locations
I don’t think so. It’s being reported separately from involcan that there are two new eruptions
The involcan tweets says: "desde", which means "from", so it means they recorded the main cumbre vieja eruption from those locations.
Look up Hal Turner radio show site. He’s posted articles on both new eruptions with photos
As far as I am aware, there are NO new eruptions. I strongly suggest that you do not listen to this man. He does not have a clue!
wow just as I read your comment, a 4.5 mag hit at 35km. Of course you were right on.
A lava stream seems to be returning underground. Is that good? Will it cool and solidify or will it build pressure and re-emerge from a new vent?
It isn't going underground. It is just flowing beneath the solidified lava crust.
Bill, can you provide an update on the threat of the island breaking off since there is currently steam and lava coming from vents on the unstable ridge? How can I be alerted if this were to happen?
No. This isn't true. If it did, it would be big news and you would hear about it.
They haven't had much in the news. I don't think they will. Why do you day this isn't true? I have seen photos of the steam and lava coming from the vents on the ridge. What link can you provide to show otherwise?
This is just not true. The eruption is lower down on the west flank. There are NO eruptive vents on the summit ridge.
Thank you.
Any concerns about the current lava tunnels / tubes? One summary mentions that trapped ground water could create enough steam to make the flank collapse a reality.
Yes, but steam production needs to be beneath the summit ridge. There is currently no activity there.
Thanks for clarifying Bill, appreciate it.
Bill, this article as of this evening is stating there’s steam now above the summit ridge. Can you please review and provide your input?
It won’t let me paste the link but if you go to Hal Turner radio show it’s his latest report on La Palma. It’s very concerning